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    Unhappy Can we get back to Flash on the iPad?

    Okay, I get that people haven't missed Flash on the iPhone, and that Apple sells alot of iPhones. Yes, most people don't use their iPhone as a web browser because the screen is too small, and therefore haven't missed Flash. Special purpose applications like YouTube on iPhone have been targeted to fill the Flash gap on iPhone to some degree. Should the iPad be hobbled the same way? This may be the biggest strategic problem with using iPhone OS on the iPad. The iPad processor will certainly be more powerful than the iPhone and capable of being more than iPhone OS will allow. Personally, I wonder if backward compatibility with iPhone apps was really worth it. For the record, I'm on this forum because I'm interested in the iPad as a social and technical phenomenon, not necessarily because I intend to buy one. I haven't made up my mind about that. I didn't realize how much I would miss Flash until I tried web surfing without it. It sure wasn't the "best browsing experience you've ever had" as Jobs promised, as I describe more fully in my blog at Mark's Tech Chat It may be that iPad will be saved by these "gap filler" apps and its great games and ebook potential. I certainly hope so, but for me personally, web browsing would have been the main use, so Flash is important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorje View Post
    And how many of those flash based magazines would work with a multi-touch interface from the start? Forgetting the iPad, and looking around all the up-coming multi-touch devices. If the interface of whatever flash app your looking at can't deal with a lack of full keyboard and mouse (pointer) then its toast for multi-touch and would have be rebuilt anyways to cater to that device market.
    All of them. They're all on my website to be launched in a month or so. Right now it's only built with Flash. And if the penetration of devices with big enough screens and no Flash capability gets large enough we'll code the site for them, but right now I think that this will be at least a year down the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IpadOne View Post
    I assume most of user will buy without knowing clearly what is flash and if they need or not ....
    I suspect/hope that most iPad customers will buy one knowing that they don't need Flash, because those that buy one without knowing what Flash is will probably be back the next day demanding a refund.

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    My guess is that contents that use flash currently eventually move on to html5 or something.

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    Don't confuse, i don't talk about the geek or the early adopter ... a part of my job is have an eye in the market and the consumer behavior .... you will be surprised to know the quantity of people have an Iphone and never set their email ...

    3 days ago a friend of me have an Iphone 1Gen ask me why i never can use the map and You tube .... he have this device for two year ... he just don't enter the data connection information ...

    Difficult to believe but is the true

    Of course us is different we made all settings well and we enjoy 100% of our devices, but we are a small percent of buyer

    Update: bad news for Adobe after Hulu , Virgin America quit the Flash boat

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    I would rather have more battery time than flash. It is going to be just like Iphone and I am happy with that. The guy who commented earlier about needing a keyboard for games-this is a touch screen yes but there is an inbuilt keyboard and if that is not enough for you you can by the keyboard accessories.

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    The software keyboard would need to be called somehow. It likely won't have a user activated appearance. That means the website would have to somehow tell mobile Safari that it needs to bring up the keyboard, again not something you'd see as a default feature. There is also an issue of screen space when that keyboard comes up. It'll be better the the iPad but it could still be a problem with larger flash(html5) games/apps.

    Yes you can use the add-on keyboard and for more power users or heavy emailers it will work in a desk environment, but what about on a bus? Car pool? Plane flight? Do you keep the keyboard with you at all times? What about sidewase use (giving even less space for content, although sidewase could be adressed with Bluetooth keyboard)?

    What about press and hold? Try it with the iPod/iPhone software keyboard... which I had not realized would bring up extra character options before now like " can be » or « , ¡Æ!
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    The only games I play are basic solitare and other card games. Of course I may get more involved with Ipad but I doubt it. I leave that up to you Younguns!

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    Wired and the iPad

    Hey everyone, so I was wondering if anyone has seen the wired magazine video on youtube? It shows the magazine working with adobe to create a really cool experience for looking at the so called magazine. So does that mean it will have flash? Because I was under the impression that it wasn't. Also where's the Camera and SD slots!? Maybe later generations. But if i have any of this wrong please let me know.

    Also I found this funny iPad commercial on youtube.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZHQ7hcdh9U"]iPad video[/ame]

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    Justin far as we know ... no flash in the Ipad , and reader card slot is an external accessory , concerning the camera nothing it really clear yet ...
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