Could iTunes be any worse? (rant)
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iPad Junkie
Could iTunes be any worse? (rant)
Well, of course it could. As bad as the last "update" was, Apple surely had to leave room to degrade the app further in the future. It's The Apple Way. One shudders to think...
Anyway. As the primary impedi...er...interface between our iPads and our desires to do useful things with them, the vagaries, limitations, and just-plain-bugs of iTunes are maddening. When I launch iTunes on my iMac, it only sees and mounts the iPad via wifi about 20% of the time, even though it's sitting 4' from the router. Generally, if I quit and relaunch iTunes enough times, eventually it will find the iPad. Sometimes, it will even mount both my 3 and my wife's Mini at the same time. Glory Hallelujah, praise Steve! But why can't it Just Work, all the time?
Once mounted, there are persistent unwanted items in iTunes that I can't get rid of. Let's take free movies downloaded from the iTunes Store, which I will never want to watch again. If I delete them, iTunes starts re-downloading them next session, unbidden. It's clutter that won't go away. Similarly, there are books in iBooks that cannot be deleted from iTunes. Unchecked, at least they stay off the iPad, but why is there no way to remove them entirely? The Help screen says to press the Delete key, but it's lying--that does nothing. In the Edit menu, "Delete" is grayed out. Why can't the solution be obvious? I hate treasure-hunt navigation as much as mystery-meat navigation.
Apple's interface and usability expertise has fallen a long, long way since the demise of OS 9.
milliHelen: amount of beauty required to launch one ship.
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04-05-2013 09:43 AM
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Super Moderator
I never understand these iTunes rants. I could understand ranting about, say Windows Media Player (which I have despised for years) but iTunes has always been a smooth and pleasant experience for me. That being said, I'm sorry you're having issues, ad I hope there's an easy solution. (There typically is in my experience with iTunes)
Sent from my White iPad 4.
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Super Moderator
Have to say, I find a similar experience. I was once prepared to put it down to Windows, but I find exactly the same on my MBP. I can have four iDevices on the same network, and iTunes may, or may not, find one, none or all if them, and there is no logic to it. If it simply refused to find anything, I'd just live with it and sync via USB, but when it sometimes finds a device and syncs it flawlessly, in spite of the fact that it should not, since the device is supposed to be plugged into mains power, it leaves me with an itch I can't scratch.
You have my sympathy, Lanny.
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iPF Novice
I agree with the hit / miss WiFi device connectivity. It seems to come and go at random.
Let's not forget to mention the Apple Mobile device service that frequently eats up 30% or more of your CPU's process....
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Administrator
I did have issues with wif Nd iTunes with a couple of devices but since Telstra changed my cable modem all works fine. One must have iDevices on power to guarantee auto connect for back up
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iPad Wizard
I use iTunes as little as possible. It used to crash all the time for no reason, despite my husband and I doing the same things and having the same setups on all our computers. It stopped crashing several years ago because they've apparently improved it on PCs, but we'd already developed bad associations with it. When we had iPods only, we used alternative software altogether and never used iTunes.
In the longer run, I'm glad iTunes sucked, because it trained us to not buy content from Apple. As a result, our paid content comes from other places, including Amazon, which has made it really easy to access, download and redownload our purchases on multiple platforms, so we're not locked into Apple devices. That's worked in Amazon's favor, because we've spent a lot of money on content.
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iPad Junkie

Originally Posted by
col.bris
One must have iDevices on power to guarantee auto connect for back up
That's no guarantee, unless you mean plugged into your Mac/PC's USB port instead of using wifi, which sidesteps the issue. Sometimes, plugging and unplugging the iPad repeatedly into the wall wart will get iTunes' attention, but not always.
Has anyone figured out how to delete those recalcitrant books and movies?
milliHelen: amount of beauty required to launch one ship.
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iPad Wizard

Originally Posted by
LannyC
Has anyone figured out how to delete those recalcitrant books and movies?
Do yours synch even if you have them toggled off not to? I've not had problems with that. The synching has worked fine for me on various iDevices, even with diff profiles for each of them.
But purchased books do stay, without permanent way to delete from iTunes (though they can be removed from devices) from my experience. I've not explored that much, because all the iBooks I have have been freebies. For the overwhelming number of my books, I use Kindle, which allows permanent deletion on devices and from your Kindle cloud account. I love that I also can easily access my entire Kindle library via non-Apple devices, and easily manage my digital library from any device.
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iPF Novice
I had my own share of frustration with iTunes but never because of connectivity issues. I guess I just got lucky.
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Super Moderator

Originally Posted by
BocataDeChoped
I had my own share of frustration with iTunes but never because of connectivity issues. I guess I just got lucky.
And that is the frustration part. Yes, a device should be plugged into an outlet for this to work, but my experience is that quite often it will sync while it's in my pocket, while another device that it plugged in will not. I've seen four devices, my iPhone and iPad and my son's iPad and iPod all connect wirelessly, and I've seen every permutation of devices refusing to connect. Everything connects through USB every time so it's not a practical issue. It's just frustrating, partly because I want an answer to be able to give to the forum, and so far I don't have one.
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