How much RAM

[charm]

The breakdown will show who knows what here. Plus I never said iOS 6 managed memory better. If it did the we iPad 1 users could get it. Ios6 locks up even more RAM.
I have no quarrel with ars tech just waiting for a breakdown but I will stand by my prediction of 1GB As for robust power user, guess we have different definitions I saw how heated the RAM discussion on macrumors forum got with uncivil postings on the need for a minimum of 1GB and don,t intend to repeat the good points or elicit the flames
Reasonable people can disagree without being disagreeable. When my prediction is validated, you may wish to reevaluate your opinions. No point in arguing
You do a good job in keeping this forum civil and I can easily wait a few weeks to be proven correct or else confess error
Charm

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[Skull One]

f4780y is spot on. Just vetted Ars Technical analsys. Their assumptions and extrapolations are well within the bounds of both reason and technical capabilities.

And 2GB of RAM would be a waste of time and battery life. iOS already has one of the best memory managers for application load and unloading I have seen. Of course using an Unix based OS that has been around for decades helps

[AQ_OC]

Elementary my dear AQ
Apple announced the ipad4 will use it's A6 Extreme (A6X) processor which is the same one in the iPhone 5. Both chip works and fix it have broken down this new A6 so those are the specs I gave. Granted their could be clock speed differences ( the 1.5 GHz figure posted on this thread by a victim of Apple's successful campaign to eliminate any understanding of RAM and conflate memory with storage ) that only a breakdown can prove. But it can't be the 2 GB some hoped for.
With the new memory management of IOS6 , the 1 GB will still deliver a great experience.
Charm

Not arguing your logic, but your post says you "finally got specs" and I asked from where you got them. Turns out you are just guessing. If you guess, say so and give you logic. It is not proper behavior to give the impression that you found the actual specs some place when you did not. Some would even call that lying.

[f4780y]

With the new memory management of IOS6 , the 1 GB will still deliver a great experience.

Plus I never said iOS 6 managed memory better.

You'll excuse me for thinking you did, based on the quote?

[Skull One]

The breakdown will show who knows what here. Plus I never said iOS 6 managed memory better. If it did the we iPad 1 users could get it. Ios6 locks up even more RAM.
I have no quarrel with ars tech just waiting for a breakdown but I will stand by my prediction of 1GB As for robust power user, guess we have different definitions I saw how heated the RAM discussion on macrumors forum got with uncivil postings on the need for a minimum of 1GB and don,t intend to repeat the good points or elicit the flames
Reasonable people can disagree without being disagreeable. When my prediction is validated, you may wish to reevaluate your opinions. No point in arguing
You do a good job in keeping this forum civil and I can easily wait a few weeks to be proven correct or else confess error
Charm

Where to start? Oh, right here....

If it did the we iPad 1 users could get it

Sorry. You apparently don't understand the nature of how applications run in iOS. Because the iPad 1s issue has to do with the APPLICATION size not the OS size or capabilities. A brief primer on the subject to bring you up to speed.

An application under iOS, under most design conditions, loads almost everything into memory when possible. The reason for that is to minimize battery usage. Every time the OS has to go from the disk to RAM it wastes battery power. So if the application size is over 256 megabytes, that means there will be a ton of paging going on that is doing nothing more than eating battery. So if we take into account that the iOS core has to be in memory, that means we are already dealing with less memory and more paging. That is why the iPad 1 had to be shelved for future iOS upgrades. It was simply under powered for the explosion of apps that were to come. Heck you would be better of blaming the iPad users hunger for better apps than blaming Apple.

stand by my prediction of 1GB

Can't blame you for that one. 1GB already has a huge power requirement. Going to 2GB has little benefit to the current iOS or applications on the market and would require even more power.

[charm]

AQ

Some might say that my use of the famous Sherlock Holmes expression made it clear that I "found " the specs thru a process of logical deduction
Some other might even say only the obtuse would consider it lying

[charm]

F4780y

It is excusable. But to an old guy like me who still misses DOS and edlin , new does not always mean improved. A more recent example would be thr new coke fiasco

[charm]

Skull1

Thanks for the iOS apps explication. That does not seem to bode well for ipad2 users with their 512MB for future better apps

[Skull One]

Ah yes, New Coke.....

A ruse to allow them to switch from pure sugar to corn syrup. Such a sad time for cola drinkers in the US. Luckily my local store still carries Coke made in Mexico that uses the old formula with pure sugar.

[Skull One]

Skull1

Thanks for the iOS apps explication. That does not seem to bode well for ipad2 users with their 512MB for future better apps

Yes and no. This becomes subjective, in a sense, because of the iPad mini. Once we find out how close the mini is to the iPad 2 in architecture, then we should be able to extrapolate the overall ramifications.

Currently, I am of the opinion that the iPad mini will give the iPad 2 at least two more years of life from today.