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    Why Apple should end it's fight against jailbreakers


    Colin Gibbs who writes for the Giga Om Network has written up a nice article about a recent Apple patent application to identify the “hacking, jailbreaking, unlocking or removal of a SIM card” from a phone so the device can be located and its data erased.

    This is aimed squarely at the people who are modifying/hacking their devices and giving themselves the ability to install apps not seen in the app store and other benefits.

    The question is, should Apple really be focused on this? Apple has a sterling reputation, and with the exception of the recent iPhone 4 Antennae issue they've handled every mis-step in a great fashion.

    This however could potentially expose them to some really nasty feelings from users who have their devices "bricked" remotely. Imagine plunking down your hard earned cash for an iPhone 4 or an iPad and hacking it as you see fit only to see Apple render the device useless from afar.

    I can't imagine I'd feel to good about that. I own the device, I should be able to use it as I please... at least, that's my opinion.

    What are your thoughts on the matter? Please let us know as a reply to this post.

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    There would be so many lawsuits they would be crippled. Especially since a judge already ruled on the legality of jail breaking...that would be a basic privacy breach and essentially apple installing a Trojan in their devices. They have no right to what I do with my device.

    You do realize that the second the first bricked idevice occurs there will be 50 jailbreaks that disable the killswitch within a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gentlefury View Post
    There would be so many lawsuits they would be crippled. Especially since a judge already ruled on the legality of jail breaking...that would be a basic privacy breach and essentially apple installing a Trojan in their devices. They have no right to what I do with my device.

    You do realize that the second the first bricked idevice occurs there will be 50 jailbreaks that disable the killswitch within a day.
    i do have a problem with the whole fact after i have bought the item and it mine that apple can come in behind the curtain and make sure they can control the device even farther ..

    to me that has allway smack of the 1984 big brother .for once i put my money on the table the device becomes my personal property and no longer own by the apple company so what i do with it is my business not there..

    i mean that if i was renting a device from apple that a diff story but i am not it or i got it through work and they said i could not do this or this to the device i would understand it ..but i puting out my own hard earned cash then it no one business what i do with it after it leaves the store..

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    I'm not a keen jailbreaker but there's no way Apple should be able brick a device they no longer own
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    I agree with the others, though I imagine everyone is. While my iPad is not jailbroken, and probably never will be, I do believe that everyone should have the right to do with their device as they please.

    Now if you jailbreak it and then try to sell it in a retail environment still hacked then I disagree with that.

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    They would be stupid to fight it. Theres a pretty big base of users who would all go to Android if they did that. Being able to jailbreak is what keeps a lot of people in the iOS game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pallentx View Post
    They would be stupid to fight it. Theres a pretty big base of users who would all go to Android if they did that. Being able to jailbreak is what keeps a lot of people in the iOS game.
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    If I couldn't jailbreak MY idevices then would move to another platform.
    Besides if it wasn't for the jailbreak community there would not be an app store. In the beginnig apple said there would be no third party apps, then the JB community kept embarrassing them with really great apps that people wanted. Now the app store makes tons of money for them, Appl you're welcome.

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    It really depends upon what you are jailbreaking the phone for. If you are jailbreaking the phone to install apps that Apple deems "unworthy" but you want to run anyway (accepting the consequences) then you should be able to.

    If you are jailbreaking for theft of services (i.e. being able to tether without paying additional carrier fees or installing apps that you didn't pay for) I can see where the carrier would get upset and require the phone vendor to make sure you cannot do this.

    I believe most jailbreaking falls into this second category (trying to get something for nothing.) Whether you believe this is just or not it still is against the TOU of the carrier.

    Since phones still have to be put on carriers phone makers need to appease them to some extent and this means doing all they can to prevent users from circumventing the TOU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilroykilroy View Post
    If you are jailbreaking for theft of services (i.e. being able to tether without paying additional carrier fees or installing apps that you didn't pay for) I can see where the carrier would get upset and require the phone vendor to make sure you cannot do this.
    I agree. Though, I don't know that its the majority of what is being done currently in the jail-breaking community. People I know that have jail-broken, don't do it to pirate software, but to get additional features not available officially. I think they do enable tethering on their phones though, which the carriers might not be happy about.

    I have considered jail-breaking and will likely do it after the 4.0 jailbreak is available. My motivation for doing so is additional capabilities, file system access and such.

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    BTW - the whole notion of "I own the device, I should be able to do what I want with it" probably doesn't hold up legally.

    In IT, there are lots of instances where you buy hardware and pay for features to be enabled. Our sysadmin was just telling me the other day that we have a fiber-optic switch. We can plug things into the switch, but to turn the port on, we have to pay for the license to do so. This kind of thing happens quite a bit in Enterprise IT systems, but consumers are much less tolerant of these kinds of pricing schemes.


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