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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinJS

    He's probably analyzing employment opportunities as we speak.

    Seriously though, he's right. Apple is no longer "cool". It's a very profitable business selling high quality products, but its become mainstream. You don't have to be a geek to want their products now, and their computers are serious contenders as everyone's main computer now.
    That's a good way of putting it. Figures that I've never had any Apple products before my current iPad. I never had a "bask in the coolness" or "hey look at me" period. Damnit all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by s2mikey View Post
    That's a good way of putting it. Figures that I've never had any Apple products before my current iPad. I never had a "bask in the coolness" or "hey look at me" period. Damnit all!
    Well, I was a geek long before it was cool to be a geek. I always hated Apple equipment, because I used to dabble in networking, and couldn't be bothered learning an OS that wasn't in widespread use. Now I've had a chance to actually look at the things, I find that I want one very badly. Not because they are cool, but because they are exactly what they should be.

    Incidentally, my last post was based on the title of the thread alone. I didn't read the body text. Seems the analyst found as many ways as he could to jam his foot in his mouth, sideways. He must be red faced now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AQ_OC View Post
    Apples competitors are far, far behind in terms of profit. It is important that companies earn a decent profit else they might not be around to support their products.
    That's a given: Make money or go out of business. But that doesn't mean there's not room for multiple companies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaykaykay View Post
    That's a given: Make money or go out of business. But that doesn't mean there's not room for multiple companies.
    The more the merrier. Competition is good for consumers, as you've often pointed out, Kay. I just think a lot of us are getting tired of the circling vultures, who seem to be almost praying for a catastrophic failure on Apple's part, so they have something to report for a few days, until the NEXT BIG THING blows up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinJS View Post
    The more the merrier. Competition is good for consumers, as you've often pointed out, Kay. I just think a lot of us are getting tired of the circling vultures, who seem to be almost praying for a catastrophic failure on Apple's part, so they have something to report for a few days, until the NEXT BIG THING blows up.
    That's probably human -- people in general are interested when things go wrong, when there's drama. That's what news focuses on, because that's what gets read.

    In Apple's case, there's probably bitterness among techies who like lots of customability, because Apple's success has influenced the industry toward less access in some cases. It's two types of customers, and the techies probably feel threatened, because they worry that they will be served less and less in the marketplace.

    There are some people who also don't like exclusivity, which Apple's higher prices have equated to. Some people are bitter because they can't afford Apple, and some people just disdain spending more for convenience that they don't value (even though others might).
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    I for see a lot if people including myself and my wife eventually leaving apple...we have spent tons of money getting their stuff but the lack of innovation or something groundbreaking is becoming old fast and is boring. They need to do something big and soon

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    Analyst Says Apple Will No Longer Be Cool in 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojosodope View Post
    I for see a lot if people including myself and my wife eventually leaving apple...we have spent tons of money getting their stuff but the lack of innovation or something groundbreaking is becoming old fast and is boring. They need to do something big and soon

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    How would you define "big" in this context?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewitt View Post
    How would you define "big" in this context?
    How about the new 27" iMac. I've had computers from the very first, and this is the first time I've decided on a buy based on ćsthetics, and only later looked at the specs. Add the 3Tb fusion drive, no tower and wireless everything, and I think this beast qualifies as "big".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaykaykay View Post
    That's a given: Make money or go out of business. But that doesn't mean there's not room for multiple companies.
    Who suggested there wasn't room for competitors? There is plenty of room. The point is competitors wont be competitors for long if they don't start making some decent profit. Being a long distant no 2 isn't such a big deal when your profit is in the noise. This is the problem with how google and amazon are competing right now, tossing out low cost devices that earn them little, if any profit. Google is even making it hard for other android tablet manufacturers to compete, buy offering up the nexus 7, which just kills what others like samsung can get for their wares. Samsung's 7-inch tablets took a real killing from Google's low-cost models. Amazon is the content king, so they have a hope to ring out a little extra on books, music, and video. Few others can hope to match them, beyond apple.

    Bottom feeding is not good in the long term. It's not true competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AQ_OC View Post
    Who suggested there wasn't room for competitors? There is plenty of room. The point is competitors wont be competitors for long if they don't start making some decent profit. Being a long distant no 2 isn't such a big deal when your profit is in the noise. This is the problem with how google and amazon are competing right now, tossing out low cost devices that earn them little, if any profit. Google is even making it hard for other android tablet manufacturers to compete, buy offering up the nexus 7, which just kills what others like samsung can get for their wares. Samsung's 7-inch tablets took a real killing from Google's low-cost models. Amazon is the content king, so they have a hope to ring out a little extra on books, music, and video. Few others can hope to match them, beyond apple.

    Bottom feeding is not good in the long term. It's not true competition.
    The thing with competition is that you take your chances, and everyone can pick the biz model that they think will work. If everyone competed like Apple, many buyers would be shut out of owning tablets, because they couldn't afford them, or because they didn't want to spend as much. It's not bottom feeding to go for another demographic. It's an old model to offer razors and then charge for the razor blades. Consumers can choose what they want.

    I'm not worried about companies making money (or not). That's their prob.


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