Originally Posted by Ripplinghurst

Originally Posted by not2fly1000

I'd like to see the iPad incorporate the Kindle-esque screen settings for reading ala Innoversal's prototype device and the Notion Ink Tablet. I think those devices are better situated as Kindle killers because of the extended battery life and easiness on the eyes of the "eReader" screen settings.

WHOA, I'd buy those!

Yea, me too! lol

I'm holding out on making a purchase until some of these other devices get released. I want to see how they end up performing. They sound impressive though. I just hope I can summon the patience to wait another month or two.

Hello to all that will read this. I recently purchased an IPAD on ebay and received it just as described. My wife had car trouble that was going to cost a bundle so I had to sell the ipad to come up with the cash. It had been unlocked so I thought it would be worth a bit more than normal. I listed the 16GB Wi-Fi for $789.00 or best offer with $44.00 for international shipping. The guy didn't make an offer he purchased the ipad at full price. I was shocked I had just made several hundred bucks that quick. I received an e-mail in ebay messaging asking me to send it to his brother in the Philippines since he had paid the $829.00 so I said ok. After that I was thinking this might not be a good idea so I contacted ebay. The person I spoke with asked if I had his money in my paypal account and I replied yes. He said do you have the e-mail within ebay messaging that ask you to send it there. I said yes. He told me to be sure to get a receipt when I shipped it but the transaction would not be a problem. Well guess what. The unit mailed on June 5th. On June 18th I woke up and fixed coffee and sat down to look at some items I was selling and checked my bank account and it showed some money missing and said paypal. I had 800.00 in paypal when I went to bed. When I opened it I was $44.00 overdrawn they had wiped out my account. The money was reversed out of my account. Says hold being reviewed by paypal agent. I was on the phone for 3 hours and everyone kept pointing fingers at each other. Ebay said it was paypal that should deal with it and paypal said ebay should deal with it. The long and short of it is I don;t have an IPAD or my money. Finally ebay admitted they had been attacked and it was a large scale attack world wide. Most being in Nigeria but some like mine in the Philippines. I don't know if I'll ever get my money. I run it to the top level of security by asking to speak with your boss and then when that person got on the phone I asked to speak to there boss I would not take no for an answer Get names and dept. climb as high as you can go. At the end of it all the transferred me on last time to the billing dept. they said I should (Key word) have money in my account within 48 hours. I'll re post tomorrow to let you know if ebay made good on this. I have my doubts. They said there were 1,000's of people affected by this. I want my seller protection. They said the crooks had inside knowledge of the inner workings of both ebay and paypal and that they may even have inside help pulling this off. I hope the crook fills his tub with lots of bubbles and pours a stiff drink and sits the ipad on the side of the tub. With any luck it will fall in and burn his nuts off. Actually I hope it fries his ass with the massive processor they have. Ebay said they only target Apple products due to the power. They were very closed lip about everything like they really didn't want to tell me anything about it. They said there was a major investigation going on that included the FBI. I hope they rot in hell. Seller beware. I've also heard of issue buying them on ebay as well. Hope everyone has a good night and thank you for letting me vent. Not a very good farthers day gift at all.

Originally Posted by Ripplinghurst

I think there's a market for the Kindle, surely, but it's much smaller than the iPad's.

Yep, the Kindle is much better for reading. The only way the iPad is a "Kindle-killer" is that it offers a lot more functionality, and I'd rather carry the iPad than carry both a Kindle and a Netbook.

Originally Posted by Jeffs820

I listed the 16GB Wi-Fi for $789.00 or best offer with $44.00 for international shipping. The guy didn't make an offer he purchased the ipad at full price. I was shocked I had just made several hundred bucks that quick.

Gee, you wonder why these Nigerian scams are still so prevalent??? Because people are greedy! Did you honestly believe that you were going to make almost $300 more than what it originally cost?

My grandpappy had a saying, "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!"

I gotta tell ya, I am having a really tough time feeling any sympathy for you.

The two are a totally separate class of device. The Kindle has an unlit screen that is easier on the eyes and only uses power when the screen changes.

Amazon may sell a few less Kindles because of the iPad, but as long as you are buying books through the Kindle app, they don't care. iBooks will offer some competition, but that's not the only alternative publisher for ebooks out there. Right now, it looks like Amazon has a wider selection. in the end, competition is good for us

^^^wise words.

Well it's simple. It is supply and demand. If I told you that I've made over a $1,000 profit on a pocket knife that I bought on ebay and relisted correctly on ebay would you believe it. Well it's true. Take it for what it's worth I just wanted the world to know it happens and it happened to me. I didn't ask for your sympathy. However I do appreciate your response to my comment. The simple fact is that 9500 people were scammed on ebay with there IPADS since June 5th. At this point I've invested 11 hours worth of my time on the phone with ebay and paypal. If you do the math and lets say on a conservative level the average ipad sells for 600 on average some a lot more and some as low as $530 were talking about $7,500,000.00 there abouts plus the units them selves which is double that number so now the average consumer on ebay that are honest people probably selling due to the failing economy are screwed out of 15,000,000.00 dollars. I think it's worth taking about. I've informed them that my next phone call is to CNN to see if they would like to talk about the story. I don't think ebay nor paypal wants the world to know this part of there dirty laundry. Seller beware and God bless...

Originally Posted by 1991-C4

Originally Posted by Jeffs820

I listed the 16GB Wi-Fi for $789.00 or best offer with $44.00 for international shipping. The guy didn't make an offer he purchased the ipad at full price. I was shocked I had just made several hundred bucks that quick.

Gee, you wonder why these Nigerian scams are still so prevalent??? Because people are greedy! Did you honestly believe that you were going to make almost $300 more than what it originally cost?

My grandpappy had a saying, "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!"

I gotta tell ya, I am having a really tough time feeling any sympathy for you.

i don't think the ipad is great for an ebook... the kindle is so much lighter and no glare, why would u wanna read a book on an ipad? i prefer real book, just sayin!