Apple has always placed great importance on R&D in order to deliver to its customers the best products possible. Now, news coming from the CNET China team, who apparently stumbled upon some information via relevant sources, claim that Apple is ready to extend its branch of R&D all the way to China.

Apparently, the Chinese financial news site yicai.com has already confirmed the information stating that Apple is due to open a new research facility in Shanghai as soon as this summer:

“Shanghai Municipal Commission of Commerce has announced that Apple will open its R&D center this summer. Apple has registered three firms in three buildings in Pudong, Shanghai, and one of them will be dedicated to procurement management and R&D, according to documents on the Shanghai Municipal Administration for Industry and Commerce’s website.”

Apple was also rumored to be planning to open a R&D place in Beijing. A couple of weeks ago, Apple’s CEO himself, Tim Cook, talked about the subject when he met with the Beijing mayor. Nothing of the project has been revealed until now, though, so there’s no way to know if the plans are still viable.


Nevertheless, it makes sense for Apple to want to extend its R&D wings over China, since it has seen revenues worth $7.3 billion coming from the country - just in a single quarter. The only problem Apple might face in China, is the price it imposes on its products – most of them are too high for the average worker to afford.

Source: AppleInsider

So, it's not just assembly that's done overseas its also R&D? Let me guess, we don't have the capability to do any of that kind of work here? Meh.

Originally Posted by s2mikey

So, it's not just assembly that's done overseas its also R&D? Let me guess, we don't have the capability to do any of that kind of work here? Meh.

U.S. Students Still Lag Behind Foreign Peers, Schools Make Little Progress In Improving Achievement

Building Successful Research and Development Centers in China | Russell Reynolds Associates

From two years ago: China to become second largest R&D spender | Business Tech - CNET News

From 2006: China's Spending on Research and Development Growing Faster than U.S., Government and Economic Development Programs Article | Inc.com

Until U.S. schools go from being government indoctrination centers to actually teaching our kids, unfortunately we will fall further and further behind.

Originally Posted by Kaykaykay

U.S. Students Still Lag Behind Foreign Peers, Schools Make Little Progress In Improving Achievement

Building Successful Research and Development Centers in China | Russell Reynolds Associates

From two years ago: China to become second largest R&D spender | Business Tech - CNET News

From 2006: China's Spending on Research and Development Growing Faster than U.S., Government and Economic Development Programs Article | Inc.com

There are plenty of very talented engineers and developers right here. I work with some of them. I'm just not buying any of this. It's just a ploy to save money and increase profits. They should just say that though. I'd be OK with it. But, to try and make it like we have a population of 300 million people and none of them can handle this work is just an insult.

So, if all of this talent is just sitting over in china waiting to be harnessed, why don't they replace Tim Cook and all the executives? Oh wait, china doesn't have anyone as smart as those guys, the same ones brought up in out terrible education system or whatever. I get it now.

Originally Posted by s2mikey

There are plenty of very talented engineers and developers right here. I work with some of them. I'm just not buying any of this. It's just a ploy to save money and increase profits. They should just say that though. I'd be OK with it. But, to try and make it like we have a population of 300 million people and none of them can handle this work is just an insult.

So, if all of this talent is just sitting over in china waiting to be harnessed, why don't they replace Tim Cook and all the executives? Oh wait, china doesn't have anyone as smart as those guys, the same ones brought up in out terrible education system or whatever. I get it now.

You've jumped to conclusions; no one is saying there's no one qualified in the U.S. As one of the links I posted mentions, many companies already have R&D in China, and there are many diff types of R&D. That doesn't mean Apple needs to move all operations there.

China is a huge market, but many people there can't afford Apple products. One of the advantages of R&D in a market you're trying to pursue is leveraging local talent, which better understands local needs. China also has a huge pool of people with strong math and science skills. And of course Chinese labor is cheaper; no one has said otherwise.

The U.S. still has some of the best universities in the world, which is why many foreigners, including Chinese, flock here for an education. But foreigners also helped build Silicon Valley -- Indians, especially. A mix of talent is better than homogeneity, esp if you want to sell to the world.

And techies are in high demand in the U.S. right now, despite the otherwise crap economy: Surveys Show Tech Workers in Most Demand in 2013

There's actually a shortage of techies with certain skills. For instance, my husband has gotten about a dozen recruiting calls in the past few months. His company gave him a big raise and additional perks to stay, and they've got jobs they've been unable to fill because they can't find the right people. Among his colleagues: a big mix of talent from worldwide, including many from and in Asia.

Originally Posted by Munky

Until U.S. schools go from being government indoctrination centers to actually teaching our kids, unfortunately we will fall further and further behind.

Quote for the frackin truth!

Originally Posted by Kaykaykay

You've jumped to conclusions; no one is saying there's no one qualified in the U.S. As one of the links I posted mentions, many companies already have R&D in China, and there are many diff types of R&D. That doesn't mean Apple needs to move all operations there.

China is a huge market, but many people there can't afford Apple products. One of the advantages of R&D in a market you're trying to pursue is leveraging local talent, which better understands local needs. China also has a huge pool of people with strong math and science skills. And of course Chinese labor is cheaper; no one has said otherwise.

The U.S. still has some of the best universities in the world, which is why many foreigners, including Chinese, flock here for an education. But foreigners also helped build Silicon Valley -- Indians, especially. A mix of talent is better than homogeneity, esp if you want to sell to the world.

And techies are in high demand in the U.S. right now, despite the otherwise crap economy: Surveys Show Tech Workers in Most Demand in 2013

There's actually a shortage of techies with certain skills. For instance, my husband has gotten about a dozen recruiting calls in the past few months. His company gave him a big raise and additional perks to stay, and they've got jobs they've been unable to fill because they can't find the right people. Among his colleagues: a big mix of talent from worldwide, including many from and in Asia.

I don't want to sound to crass. And, I'm fine with a global workforce when the situation permits or warrants it. Maybe in this situation it does? I just tire of hearing about how we can't do this or can't do that. I do agree that in some fields there are shortages. We are having trouble finding good software QA help. We need more than just a button pusher though. Not as easy as you'd think.

It is not R and D

Rumor: Apple Shanghai facility to be supply chain management center, not R&D center
Appleinsider

So relax



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Originally Posted by s2mikey

I don't want to sound to crass. And, I'm fine with a global workforce when the situation permits or warrants it. Maybe in this situation it does? I just tire of hearing about how we can't do this or can't do that. I do agree that in some fields there are shortages. We are having trouble finding good software QA help. We need more than just a button pusher though. Not as easy as you'd think.

Many jobs require higher skills than ever, even among those left in U.S. manufacturing. The country's biggest problem is under-educated or under-trained people, or people with training that's no longer in demand.

When it comes to lower-level assembly jobs, companies aren't going to pay U.S. wages and benefits if they can avoid it, because they'd be killed by the competition in pricing, profits and returns for shareholders. For many products, there's also your supply chain to consider. And let's face it: Many companies send work to lesser developed countries because they're hungrier for jobs, and will accept what wouldn't fly in industrialized nations -- much cheaper wages, less humane working conditions, pollution, etc.